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Blog about my experiences as I use a language of the heart. "Compassionate Connecting" describes my intention to facilitate communication and contribute to deepening relationships between people, within groups and organizations through the practice of Nonviolent Communication (NVC) james.prieto@compassionateconnecting.com

What is Nonviolent Communication (NVC)?
NVC invites language awareness based on work by Marshall Rosenberg that is sometimes called compassionate communication. Its purpose is to strengthen our ability to inspire compassion from others and to respond compassionately to others and to ourselves. NVC guides us to reframe how we express ourselves and hear others by focusing on what we are observing, feeling, needing and requesting.

Monday, January 12, 2009

The "Stupid Evil" Squirrel

I spent a week over Christmas break in Kansas City. One morning, I was having a hot cup of coffee while reading the morning newspaper with a friend in her kitchen. I was sitting at a round-table next to a large glass window facing her backyard covered with white snow. As I peered out the window enjoying the expansive green and white outside, I noticed a medium sized squirrel approaching the house. When all of a sudden, I heard: "that stupid squirrel"; and a few moments later: "It's evil."

I was startled, no longer enjoying the beauty of the outdoors, and my awareness shifted to the statements made by my friend. There was at least one other name that she called the squirrel before she called herself "stupid" for some other reason.

I was alarmed for my own safety because I have experienced that same kind of judgment towards me; I was also confused because my cup of coffee hadn't worked its clarity magic yet. As things happen, my friend quickly went on to talk about other things, and I wasn't able to verbalize my experience; I need extra time to process ideas in the morning, but her comments were bothering me nonetheless. On the inside, I was concerned for my safety, peace and wanting to contribute to my friend's well-being, but I didn't know how.

I worried that if I spoke at the time, that she would hear a criticism, so I let it go. That afternoon, I tried to express my honesty concerning something totally unrelated, and I could see and hear her apply that same judgment toward herself totally breaking down our connection, leaving me frustrated and she experiencing some hurt.

We both needed a "timeout" and went to an outdoor jogging track. After sprinting one mile, I returned to the car for a nap while my friend completed her workout.

Our ride back to her home was uneventful, but I requested some time alone with her in the kitchen. We sat down at the same round table, and I told her calmly that I wanted to share some information with her, but I was worried that she would hear a judgment. I asked if she was interested in hearing what I had to say, and she said "yes". The following is my recollection of the dialog that took place in my conversation with my friend Lesley (I changed her name to protect her privacy):

"Lesley, I'm concerned at your response to the squirrel yesterday." "Would you like to hear what comes up for me?"

"Yes", my friend replied with a worried look on her face.

"I heard you call the squirrel 'stupid', 'evil' and some other name that I can't remember." I was guessing that my friend was afraid of judgment, so I tried to convey a desire to connect and understanding with my voice tone and body posture. "I am worried that you are trapped in a box of judgment and I want to contribute to your freedom." "Would you be willing to tell me what you heard me say?"

Lesley said, "that you are worried and want to contribute to my freedom?"

"Yes", I said. "I'm wondering if you could tell me more about what goes on with you regarding the squirrel because I'm confused by your response." "What's behind your calling the squirrel 'stupid' and 'evil'"?

Lesley said, "That damn squirrel digs up my plants in the spring, eats up all of the bird feed making a mess in the yard. And I'm afraid that he'll dig a nest in our home, bite into an electrical wire in the house causing a fire."

She gave me three reasons before I had the chance to give her empathy, so I picked the last one in her list.

I said, "So, you are afraid and wanting to keep your house safe?"

"Yes", she said. "And I have to spend a lot of time in the spring replanting my flowers after the squirrel digs them up."

I replied, "Are you feeling annoyed because you want more ease, less effort, and to protect the beauty of your garden?"

"Yes." she said. "It’s a lot of work to plant and replant the flowers."

I responded: "So, you'd like some acknowledgment for the effort it takes to replant the flowers?"

"Yes." she said.

I noticed that her body posture was starting to relax a bit, as her explanations got shorter, the sound level of her speech decreased. I wanted all of the issues to be addressed, so I asked: "Are you also feeling annoyed when you see the bird feed shells scattered around the feeder because you want more beauty and order in your backyard?"

"Yes." she said, almost in tears.

I was guessing that she had received enough empathy for now, so I asked to give my honesty. I asked her: "Would you like to know what went on for me when I heard you calling the squirrel 'stupid' and 'evil'?"

"Sure!" she said enthusiastically.

I said, "Lesley, when I hear you call the squirrel 'stupid' and 'evil' I get scared that you'll turn that judgment towards me, and I'm wanting consideration and acceptance." "Would you be willing to tell me what I just said?"

"That you are scared of my judgment?" she said. I noticed that she heard what I didn’t want instead of hearing what I did want. She was hearing part of my honesty.

"Thanks Lesley." I said. "That was close." "I really want you to hear that I want consideration and acceptance, which are the needs behind my fear of judgment.” “Would you be willing to tell me that?”

My friend seemed to be hearing me more carefully now. “So, you are want acceptance and are afraid of judgment?” she said.

“Yes.” “Thank you.” “I also want you to know that I felt some sadness because I lost connection with you." “Would you be willing to tell me that?” I said.

“That you are feeling sad because you lost connection with me?” She said.

“Thanks Lesley.” “So, how do you feel at hearing me say that?” I asked.

“Gosh, I had no idea all of this was going on.” “I’m especially sad that we lost connection.” “I know I have a tendency to judge, but I didn’t know how this affected others.” She said. After recognizing that we had a common understanding of our experience, I turned our attention toward the squirrel.

“So, Lesley, what do you think is motivating the squirrel to do the things it was doing?” I asked.

Then Lesley and I explored how the squirrel was getting its needs met. It buried nuts underneath the plants to protect them from the cold and save them for later – meeting its needs for security. The squirrel was eating the bird seed because it was hungry – meeting its need for sustenance. And the squirrel occasionally digs into homes to build its own shelter. My friend came to the realization that she was connected to the squirrel somehow; that both she and the squirrel had similar needs for food and shelter.

I was sensing that we had a full connection and deep understanding, given that both of us had given our honesty, and gave empathy to the squirrel guessing at its needs. I knew that my friend read the bible every day, so I added something for her to ponder. “Lesley, do you remember in the book of Genesis when Adam and Eve bit into the apple from the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil?” She nodded. “Well, when you cast judgment on the squirrel you are doing the same thing.”

My friend had a flower arrangement in the middle of the kitchen table which happened to have apples in it. I grabbed a red shinny apple, and took at huge bite out of one for emphasis. “You are playing God with the squirrel, thinking that you have the power to cast judgment.” “And you also turn that judgment on yourself.”

We laughed a bit after I made my point with the apple. My friend expressed her gratitude to me in helping her see something that was hidden to her.

Later that day, she looked at the front page of the newspaper, and said “that stupid person, she …” It seems that old habits are hard to break.

I looked up to her, she looked down to me, and I said: “It’s not about the squirrel.”

17 comments:

willowing said...

hey james! tam here. i was deeply moved by this entry, really met my need for hope, learning, joy, compassion, empathy. deeply touching.

just also wanted to add that when I read this bit:

"I knew that my friend read the bible every day, so I added something for her to ponder. “Lesley, do you remember in the book of Genesis when Adam and Eve bit into the apple from the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil?” She nodded. “Well, when you cast judgment on the squirrel you are doing the same thing.”

My friend had a flower arrangement in the middle of the kitchen table which happened to have apples in it. I grabbed a red shinny apple, and took at huge bite out of one for emphasis. “You are playing God with the squirrel, thinking that you have the power to cast judgment.” “And you also turn that judgment on yourself.”"

i was feeling sad because that didn't meet my need for acceptance somehow.

i felt that that paragraph somehow brought judgement back in to 'the running'. judging the judging if you see what i mean?

wondering what you heard me say?

:) love tam

James said...

Hi Tam, Thanks for stopping by and speaking up. Great to hear from you. I hear that you were deeply moved by this entry, but that some sadness came up for you toward the end because it didn't meet your need for acceptance.

It was around my actions of biting into the apple and the words I used to relate my experience to her reading the bible -- your quotes of my text are clear.

I'm guessing that you'd enjoy knowing what came up for me as I read your comment. I must admit that my first strong feeling was of embarrassment as my own need for authenticity was not met. And yes, I now see how I brought judgment back into the conversation with my dramatizing the apple scene. I'm feeling some sadness because I need more acceptance and heartfelt connection in my life, and with my friend.

I am scared at this kind of evaluation creeping into my dialog without my realizing it. I am deeply grateful for your honesty, and I myself am feeling moved at the moment. I plan on following up with my friend to share these additional insights.

Wondering if anything comes up for you as you read this?

Anonymous said...

The actual experience was very helpful. My needs for empathy and connection were met, and there was a sense of playfulness, especially when you bit into the apple. When I read the written words, I felt I was being judged and wanted to remain anonymous.

Leslie

James said...

Hi Leslie - thanks for reminding me of the playfulness of the actual experience. I'm remembering the laughter around the yummy red apple as I bit into it. I'm intrigued on how my written version of the event does not seem to capture this. It definitely sounds judgmental when I read it. I will ponder this one further...

willowing said...

hey james! i didn't tick the 'email me when a new comment comes in box' so my comment is a bit late! i'm feeling sad about that as i wanted to remain connection with you about this!!

i'm hearing that when you read my comment you felt embarrassment and sadness because your need for authenticity and heartfelt connection wasn't being met. i also "heard" you say that you were grateful for my honesty, perhaps it was meeting a need for authenticity and connection? :)

i want to reiterate to you again how incredibly moving your post about your conversation with your friend was to me. (it meets my need for reassurance). it truly met some deep needs of mine, hope, joy, connection.

i am feeling sad that my comment regarding your quoted text caused some unmet needs in you. i wish to contribute to your wellbeing and not for you to feel judged (which is ironic as i was saying 'judging the judging'). not sure if you were feeling judged, but i have a fear around that.

i am grateful for this opportunity to connect with you on this level, it really meets my need for authentic sharing.

thank you.

if you'd like to share what is alive in you after hearing this, i'd love to hear.

James said...

Hi Tam - I definitely hear that you were moved by the story as it met some needs for hope and connection.

I hear that you are also experiencing some sadness around your wanting to continue in connection about this topic, and worried that your comment didn't come soon enough?

I am deeply grateful for the heartfelt empathy in your words, and the intention of your honesty. It does indeed meet my need for authenticity - which I value greatly.

I'm actually feeling very warm inside as I read your comment, as it reminds me of our first conversation together (in person).

I would like to comment on your statement: "i wish to contribute to your wellbeing and not for you to feel judged (which is ironic as i was saying 'judging the judging')". The funny truth about this is that I didn't experience judgment from you, I experienced it from me!!! You helped me to see something that I wasn't fully aware of, and I am grateful. And yes, as a result of my actions and my needs not being met, I felt some "unpleasant" feelings.

I am gaining a healthy respect for this "black hole" called "judgment", as it seems like an easy abyss for me to fall into, even while I was trying to "expose" it's effects to my friend. I am still chewing on the difference between the text and the actual experience...

I must say that this dialog is very satisfying to me -- it's met lots of needs: awareness, learning, empathy, honesty, mutuality, connection, and contribution. I do feel closer to you Tam as a result. Thanks so much for speaking up.

Does anything else come up for you?

willowing said...

hello again dear james. me too, so full of warmth and connection at our exchange. the power of nvc is truly remarkable. i feel grateful too for your response as it met my need for clarity/ understanding. i did really want the clarity around the judgement part, so thank you. as you mentioned our first meeting i am reminded too of how wonderful it was to be listened to with such great empathy. our first meeting, your listening to me, really opened up my heart to the rest of the IIT, for that I am still eternally grateful.

how would you feel if i posted this comment exchange in my nvc journal? would that be ok? or would that not meet your needs, i'd love to share it with others whose needs might get something out of this. but i'm ok with not posting it if it's not contributing to you!

lots of love
tam x

James said...

Hi Tam - thanks again for your voice. You asked about sharing this exchange with others in your NVC journal. It would meet my needs for contribution if you were to post it, and my needs for support if you would reference my blog (your choice if and how this looks). My intention for the blog is show how NVC impacts my life experience, and perhaps contribute to learning for others. It brings me joy to hear that you'd like to share our exchange! I'm sensing also needs for expanded community and meaning are being met. Warm thoughts and wishes to you, and hopes that we'll meet again soon (even if in blogoland). Warmly,
James

willowing said...

hi james! i posted here with links to your blog! :) http://community.livejournal.com/speakingpeace/

i might also bring this exchange to my practise group tonight, just as a celebration! yay! xoxo

Newb@NVC said...

Hi James. I saw Tam's post on LJ and decided to pop over here and leave a comment. I've never heard of NVC until now, so if I flub this comment for you...sorry...it is unintentional.

In your NVC vernacular, "what comes up for me" is this: Your written retelling of your squirrel story does not sound judgemental at all. By my definition, judgement is a condemnation of another in the negative sense. You were condemning no one, but you were clarifying your meaning to another.

I see a danger here in digging too deep a well where no water is to be found...in this case judgement.

My experience with judgement is that it is a defense mechanism and therefore makes that habit die hard. The question begs; what is behind the need/habit of judging. In my life it was the fear of being inferior or doing something stupid, myself. Hence judging others who do the very things I fear I might do. And why was I afraid of doing something stupid? Because I already believed myself to be inferior. Fear is a multi-layered negative force to recon with. Along with that one will find several forms of pride that attemtps to hide those insecurities and fears. Get rid of the fears and the pride, insecurity and judgementalism die.

Honestly...I felt no judgement nor fear while reading these comments. Just the warmth and connection between the people involved. I did feel however, that the fear of judgement has possibly created a hypersensitivity to "looking for judgement where there isn't any. Some would call it, "looking for a demon under every rock". Balance is the key.

Another question begs; why is there a fear of judgment and what is one believing about oneself to be afraid of that judgement to the point that one would borrow a judgement against a poor squirrel.
If a judgement against one is not true then it should not offend.

I overcame that fear by finding out why I was afraid of being judged and dealing with that root. The fear of rejection often mimicked the fear of judgement for me. I already hated myself and taking rejection from others was too painful. Now it is no longer an issue even if someone judges me directly. If I know that judgement to be untrue it holds no power over me anymore. I love me, now.

I simply tell the person it's not true and leave the ball in their court. It's amazing how quickly they stop judging when you take the sting out of the judgement.

Forgive me if I make it sound like this is easy. It is not easy but it 'is' very simple. Rhetorical questions that I don't need answers to, but had once asked myself: What is your friend's need that fuels her tendency to judge...and what are you believing about yourself that makes you afraid to hear a judgement?
For me it was a sense of worthlessness and a lack of belonging if I didn't have acceptance and consideration. I really did not know my true inner self well enough to know that I had value based on the God of that Bible your friend reads. He's not up there waiting to point the finger at anyone who breaks His rules and pass condem-nation/judgement on them for screwing up. When God judges it's in the form of bringing a knowing to that person that what they have done has hurt them and others. It is never to condemn.Unfortunately, most of the "church" world has not represented that God in a loving way.
The problem with Adam and Eve was that they disobeyed God. There was no magic in that apple that somehow made them smarter. It was the first time mankind chose to go against God's directive. God gave that command not to eat the fruit to give mankind the free will to make choices. He did not want automatons, but people who would freely choose to love Him back.

This loving God has been poorly represented as one who makes rules to make us miserable. But like a parent who wants his child to be safe they forbid them to play in the road so they won't get run over and damaged. God's "rules" are for our own protection. If you go back to Genesis the serpent tells the couple that God is holding out on them. That they can be like God if they eat it. But if you read before that it says God created them man and woman IN HIS IMAGE and LIKENESS. They ALREADY were like God. Notice also that when God came into the garden after they both hid, He was gentle with them. He already knew what had happened and he gave them a chance to come clean. He didn't come in there with a booming voice threatening their lives for being disobedient. His heart was broken.

Anyway, I saw no judgement in any of what you nor Tam have said. Your friend, I suspect, may have a fear that is feeding the judgements she makes and I hope she becomes free.

Thanks for "hearing me out".
Signed...Newb @ NVC

willowing said...

hello newb@nvc! :) who are you on lj if i may ask? :)

what i'm hearing in your comment is a concern for james' wellbeing.

i notice also that you are reflecting back on your own fear of rejection in life, with a need for acceptance, connection and belong perhaps?

it is perhaps difficult to discuss judgement if you've not had any nvc training. nvc views judgement in a very particular way, not really in the conventional sense of the word. both positive and negative judgement are considered judgements and jugement is considered a strategy to get a need meet. it's not a need as such.

i'm feeling a little frustrated, as i'd like to connect with you on this, but i worry that without you knowing the ins and outs of nvc we end up sort of talking past each other. that thought saddens me.

anyway, mostly what i got from your comment was a need for james' wellbeing and a concern around that.

how was it for you to read this comment?

xox
tam

Anonymous said...

Hi Tam,

I enjoyed reading your comment and yes, I have concern for James and his friend.

I tend to be one who cares about all people. For example: if I know someone is struggling with something I have overcome I don't feel right not offering/extending to them what helped me if I think it might shorten the duration of their pain. The good book says to do unto others as you would have them do to you.It's what I'd want someone to do for me, ya know?

So when I happened upon this article it seemed to me that I could offer up the internal questions I once had to ask myself in order to overcome my own issues with rejection, judement, etc.

So, in answer your question about my reflecting back on my own issues...I've worked through all those I mentioned. I was attempting to cite my past experiences to better illustrate what I was suggesting to them. If you reread, I don't struggle with any of it anymore.

What would be helpful to me is if you or someone else on here would clarify more about how NVC views judgement and maybe direct me to where I can read/learn how NVC works and sounds in a conversation. I am very intrigued by the idea of NVC. That would then fill your desire to connect better with me and we won't be "talking past each other". I liked the turn of phrase you used there, by the way.

Please be aware that written communication is my tour de force. I'm better at painting what I want to say. LOL! Please bear with me if I seem to be all over the place at times. My artist's brain likes to take rabbit trails and I end up writing the same way I'm thinking at times. :o)

Thanks for responding to my comment.

Take care,
Newb

p.s. my comment says anonymous because this comment page would not take my password, even after I had reset it.

James said...

Tam - thanks for the clarity and brevity of your reply.

Dear Newb@NVC - Thanks for your comment, your interest in this topic, and for the concern you show in your desire to contribute to my well-being. Does it bring you great joy to contribute to others?

I must say that I'm a little overwhelmed at the number of words in your comment, and wishing that we could have a conversation instead -- giving me more ease, maybe a common understanding and hopefully some connection to go with it. In an NVC dialog, we strive to get small parts of our honesty out in 40 words or less and allow the other person some space to respond with either empathy or honesty, and then the dialog continues.

In NVC, it is more about the mutual conversation than about being right or wrong (more about the "means" than the "ends"). In fact, with this approach, I believe that the "Spirit of God"/"Divine Source" joins in the conversation to help us find mutually acceptable "ends".

I too find a lot of wisdom in "do unto others as you would have them do to you". What I like about NVC is that it helps to bring some clarity into what that means in practice, and enables me to engage in a dialog with another person. A bit later, in the book you quote in chapter 18:19-20, there is another one that I find useful in my personal discipline of love in conversation. It says something like, when two people are able to hear each others needs in conversation, they will experience a deeply satisfying harmony (Greek: sumphoneo). Not only will their needs be met, but the Spirit shows up to celebrate with them...

Other references include Matthew 7 (exchange of a "plank" and splinter), and you may consider Marshall Rosenberg's book "Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life". If you desire a more global exposure to the dark side of judgment, I suggest "The Powers That Be" by Walter Wink.

I will say a few more words about judgment which I hope you will find helpful.

You use the word "fear" 12 times in your comment, and I would like some clarity as to how I use it. Feelings in my view are neither good nor bad, they just contain information. They tell us if our needs are being met or not. When you implied that "anger" was bad, NVC would consider that a judgment. I directly associate feelings with needs. For example, when you say "In my life it was the fear of being inferior or doing something stupid, myself." -- where you feeling afraid because you were wanting acceptance or to contribute something to someone else? Or were you afraid and needing to be treated with mutual regard?

In NVC we are most concerned with the quality of the connection between people in conversation. Judgements are most likely to break the connection between people in conversation. We search for ways to express our honesty that maintain our personal integrity and self-respect while at the same time maximizing our chances to maintain a connection.

So, in a way, I can see that you might evaluate our behavior as being "overly sensitive" when it comes to judgment. In real life, conversation is much more fluid and less formal, such that it becomes more acceptable to the parties involved if they are connected to the intention of the speaker. I am finding that when things are written down, and readers have more time to digest the meaning and context of words, that we may find better ways to express ourselves, and perhaps comment on ways in which others may have slipped judgment into a conversation -- as my friend Tam pointed out.

In the context of NVC, when I told my friend “You are playing God with the squirrel, thinking that you have the power to cast judgment.” -- I myself became judgmental, thereby creating the possibility that connection would be lost. Luckily, in our case, she was connected to my intention and was receptive to hearing the playfulness and wisdom in my words.

Does this make sense?

So, in this conversation, each person is having several dialogs. One of them is internal, one of them is external.

This blog entry shows poignantly that different people have different reactions to the same stimulus -- i.e. the words written in the blog post. In fact, my friend Lesley's reaction in the moment of my references to the apple were of play and learning, but as she read the written version her own patterns of judgment took over again. Yes, there is something behind her calling the squirrel "stupid" and "evil" (i.e. these are symptoms of some internal programming) -- in NVC the terms "stupid" and "evil" are seen as evaluations/judgments as they are totally subjective static labels. These "static labels" generally are ammunition to violence -- the "anti-connection".

I am seeing that now I have written more words than I am usually comfortable with in this setting. I hope that you find some value in this exchange. Perhaps we could chat via Skype sometime, as it seems that we have some things in common.

ps. I'm guessing that you are frustrated and annoyed that the comment page would not take your password because you are wanting more ease and efficient use of your time?

Best Regards,
James

Anonymous said...

Hi James,

I much prefer real conversation above written communication due to the lack of seeing a person’s body language, vocal inflections and facial expressions, much can be lost in the dialogue. This is especially true when the writers in question do not know one another. While I was not able to communicate it very well, I inferred much of what you'd said.

In answer to your question: It brings me great joy to see someone overcome their pain, and if my contributing facilitates that, great. If not, it’s still satisfying to see their victory.

I was not frustrated about the password issue. But since I am new on here, I thought I should just mention why my comment was posted as anonymous. It seems the more clear I try to be in writing the more gets ‘read into’. It makes me curious how that happens. I do not offend easily and am a very laid back individual. I don’t rattle easily.

LOL, I never counted how many times I used the word fear. I just know that it plays a large role behind many behaviors and choices. Being that no one knows me on here, I speculated that I needed to say more, I suppose: hence my rather wordy first comment.
I was surprised that you were overwhelmed by it and I had to chuckle at that.

I agree that feelings are neither good or bad, however what we ‘do’ as a result of those
feelings can be. I see feelings as an indicator light for what’s going on inside a person.

I am feeling a bit curious about what you believe we have in common. I have never used Skype and in fact have no idea what it is. I'm assuming it must be an instant messaging program. I will look into it and get back to you. In the interest of keeping this comment shorter, I won’t answer everything you wrote, but I did read those verses you cited.

I must say that I have been pretty comfortable dialoguing with ya'll. I will see if my library has any books about NVC. Thanks, ya'll.

~Newb/Total NVC Greenhorn :o)

James said...

Hi Newb - thanks for letting me know that you felt comfortable dialoging with us, and for the light humor in your comment. I want to celebrate this "connection" facilitated by 1's and 0's and countless individual contributions behind the scenes - I am constantly amazed at how the web has changed communication...

Yes, Skype is a free chat program that allows for free voice and video calls all over the world. Email me if you'd like to speak to a human being about NVC.

I am grateful for our collective contributions to this conversation.

willowing said...

Hi James/ Newbie.

I'm enjoying the connection here too James (as always).

Newbie (would you be willing to let me know your username on livejournal? just so i know who i'm talking to? it'd meet my need for connection and clarity :)), James' suggestion to read 'nonviolent communication, a language of life' by marshall rosenberg would also be mine. In addition you might find some helpful info on the main website: www.cnvc.org

James explained more eloquently than me that jugdements, in NVC world tend to get in the way of truly connecting to what is really going on inside someone (or; what is alive in them) and therefore are as much as possible avoided.

we try, though, not to judge the judging (ha ha!) if we do encounter judgement we tend to express how it makes us feel and what needs it is not meeting and/or we try to empathise with what is going for the person *behind* the judgements (which step comes first depends on the situation).

we have a fun nvc trainer here in the UK Gina Lawrie who has a "jackal cafe" as part of her training course where judgements are expressed and explored and we look into what needs they meet. but as part of a conversation which we'd like to move forward or in which we'd like to transform conflict, judgements are not considered helpful.

does that make sense?

:)

lastly, i highly recommend a introductory course! they are all over the place and very enlightening!

<3

thanks for being open to chat! x

Anonymous said...

Telegraph for Tam & James:
Very swamped this week.~stop~ Just got the book from Library.~stop~ Will get back to you soon.~end~ ~Newb =D